stelline rosso scuro: mescalina?

[uno]

al sonica un tizio mi ha spacciato delle stelline rosso scuro di diametro circa 2 millimetri per mescalina sintetica... queste stelline a sballare sballavano, però bho non avendola mai provata prima, che ne so se era davvero mescalina?

avete esperienze a riguardo? o non saprò mai cosa ho mangiato quel giorno? l'unica è riprovare la mescalina da qualcun'altro e vedere se fa gli stessi effetti...

[sd&m]

in italia alcuni cactus mescalinici sono del tutto legali ed in vendita negli smart shop

[uno]

eh lo so, cel'ho pure a casa un cactus mescalinico


da erowid:
The amount of powder neccessary for a significant dose of mescaline is typically more than what's contained in a "microdot" or other small pills touted as mescaline. Mescaline is active in the 200+ milligram range and requires a normal sized gelcap or large sized pressed pill to contain this much material. A common dose of LSD is 100-200 micrograms which can easily fit in a small tablet.

The general lack of synthetic or extracted and purified mescaline on the black market makes it likely that many things sold as mescaline will be something else. There is no easy way to test or determine the difference quantitatively. LSD can be experientially different from differing sources/batches, and its quite possible to mold or recall a trip to be akin to a description of a mescaline trip.


probabilmente non era mescalina, sicuramente non era lsd, comunque qualunque cosa fosse era buona

[LeGaLiZzaLa]

a me l'anno scorso alla street a bologna..un tipo mi vendette una pasta verde..che doveva contenere mescalina(e in teoria disse anche morfina..chiss

[LeGaLiZzaLa]

probabilmente non era mescalina, sicuramente non era lsd, comunque qualunque cosa fosse era buona

ma che sballo hai riscontrato?

[gamtisezesura]

di solito non c'

[LeGaLiZzaLa]

sto guardando il sito di ecstasydata..bellissimo..me le sto spluciando una per una..sto soffrendo!!!!..fa venire l'aquolina,ma a parte questo..ci sn tantissime capsuline..che non hanno ne caffeina ne md ne efedrina ne niente..ma sostanze di cui non ne sapevo proprio niente tipo Diethylpropion ,amitriptyline,Phenobarbital ,ecc ecc

NON E' CHE QUALCOSA DI QUESTE E' LEGALE????
O FACILMENTE REPERIBILE???

[LeGaLiZzaLa]

zac!

una cosa così è un pacco esagerato?

[L'alchimista]

ma dai cazzo come si fa acredere a queste stronzate.

anfetamine varie

1 AEM alpha-Ethyl-3,4,5-trimethoxy-PEA
2 AL 4-Allyloxy-3,5-dimethoxy-PEA
3 ALEPH 4-Methylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-A
4 ALEPH-2 4-Ethylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-A
5 ALEPH-4 4-Isopropylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-A
6 ALEPH-6 4-Phenylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-A
7 ALEPH-7 4-Propylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-A
8 ARIADNE 2,5-Dimethoxy-alpha-ethyl-4-methyl-PEA
9 ASB 3,4-Diethoxy-5-methoxy-PEA
10 B 4-Butoxy-3,5-dimethoxy-PEA
11 BEATRICE 2,5-Dimethoxy-4,N-dimethyl-A
12 BIS-TOM 2,5-Bismethylthio-4-methyl-A
13 BOB 4-Bromo-2,5,beta-trimethoxy-PEA
14 BOD 2,5,beta-Trimethoxy-4-methyl-PEA
15 BOH beta-Methoxy-3,4-methylenedioxy-PEA
16 BOHD 2,5-Dimethoxy-beta-hydroxy-4-methyl-PEA
17 BOM 3,4,5,beta-Tetramethoxy-PEA
18 4-Br-3,5-DMA 4-Bromo-3,5-dimethoxy-A
19 2-Br-4,5-MDA 2-Bromo-4,5-methylenedioxy-A
20 2C-B 4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
21 3C-BZ 4-Benzyloxy-3,5-dimethoxy-A
22 2C-C 4-Chloro-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
23 2C-D 4-Methyl-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
24 2C-E 4-Ethyl-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
25 3C-E 4-Ethoxy-3,5-dimethoxy-A
26 2C-F 4-Fluoro-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
27 2C-G 3,4-Dimethyl-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
28 2C-G-3 3,4-Trimethylene-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
29 2C-G-4 3,4-Tetramethylene-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
30 2C-G-5 3,4-Norbornyl-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
31 2C-G-N 1,4-Dimethoxynaphthyl-2-ethylamine
32 2C-H 2,5-Dimethoxy-PEA
33 2C-I 4-Iodo-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
34 2C-N 4-Nitro-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
35 2C-O-4 4-Isopropoxy-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
36 2C-P 4-Propyl-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
37 CPM 4-Cyclopropylmethoxy-3,5-dimethoxy-PEA
38 2C-SE 4-Methylseleno-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
39 2C-T 4-Methylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
40 2C-T-2 4-Ethylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
41 2C-T-4 4-Isopropylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
42 psi-2C-T-4 4-Isopropylthio-2,6-dimethoxy-PEA
43 2C-T-7 4-Propylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
44 2C-T-8 4-Cyclopropylmethylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
45 2C-T-9 4-(t)-Butylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
46 2C-T-13 4-(2-Methoxyethylthio)-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
47 2C-T-15 4-Cyclopropylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
48 2C-T-17 4-(s)-Butylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
49 2C-T-21 4-(2-Fluoroethylthio)-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
50 4-D 4-Trideuteromethyl-3,5-dimethoxy-PEA
51 beta-D beta,beta-Dideutero-3,4,5-trimethoxy-PEA
52 DESOXY 4-Methyl-3,5-Dimethoxy-PEA
53 2,4-DMA 2,4-Dimethoxy-A
54 2,5-DMA 2,5-Dimethoxy-A
55 3,4-DMA 3,4-Dimethoxy-A
56 DMCPA 2-(2,5-Dimethoxy-4-methylphenyl)-cyclopropylamine
57 DME 3,4-Dimethoxy-beta-hydroxy-PEA
58 DMMDA 2,5-Dimethoxy-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
59 DMMDA-2 2,3-Dimethoxy-4,5-methylenedioxy-A
60 DMPEA 3,4-Dimethoxy-PEA
61 DOAM 4-Amyl-2,5-dimethoxy-A
62 DOB 4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxy-A
63 DOBU 4-Butyl-2,5-dimethoxy-A
64 DOC 4-Chloro-2,5-dimethoxy-A
65 DOEF 4-(2-Fluoroethyl)-2,5-dimethoxy-A
66 DOET 4-Ethyl-2,5-dimethoxy-A
67 DOI 4-Iodo-2,5-dimethoxy-A
68 DOM (STP) 4-Methyl-2,5-dimethoxy-A
69 psi-DOM 4-Methyl-2,6-dimethoxy-A
70 DON 4-Nitro-2,5-dimethoxy-A
71 DOPR 4-Propyl-2,5-dimethoxy-A
72 E 4-Ethoxy-3,5-dimethoxy-PEA
73 EEE 2,4,5-Triethoxy-A
74 EEM 2,4-Diethoxy-5-methoxy-A
75 EME 2,5-Diethoxy-4-methoxy-A
76 EMM 2-Ethoxy-4,5-dimethoxy-A
77 ETHYL-J N,alpha-diethyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-PEA
78 ETHYL-K N-Ethyl-alpha-propyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-PEA
79 F-2 Benzofuran-2-methyl-5-methoxy-6-(2-aminopropane)
80 F-22 Benzofuran-2,2-dimethyl-5-methoxy-6-(2-aminopropane)
81 FLEA N-Hydroxy-N-methyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
82 G-3 3,4-Trimethylene-2,5-dimethoxy-A
83 G-4 3,4-Tetramethylene-2,5-dimethoxy-A
84 G-5 3,4-Norbornyl-2,5-dimethoxy-A
85 GANESHA 3,4-Dimethyl-2,5-dimethoxy-A
86 G-N 1,4-Dimethoxynaphthyl-2-isopropylamine
87 HOT-2 2,5-Dimethoxy-N-hydroxy-4-ethylthio-PEA
88 HOT-7 2,5-Dimethoxy-N-hydroxy-4-(n)-propylthio-PEA
89 HOT-17 2,5-Dimethoxy-N-hydroxy-4-(s)-butylthio-PEA
90 IDNNA 2,5-Dimethoxy-N,N-dimethyl-4-iodo-A
91 IM 2,3,4-Trimethoxy-PEA
92 IP 3,5-Dimethoxy-4-isopropoxy-PEA
93 IRIS 5-Ethoxy-2-methoxy-4-methyl-A
94 J alpha-Ethyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-PEA
95 LOPHOPHINE 3-Methoxy-4,5-methylenedioxy-PEA
96 M 3,4,5-Trimethoxy-PEA
97 4-MA 4-Methoxy-A
98 MADAM-6 2,N-Dimethyl-4,5-methylenedioxy-A
99 MAL 3,5-Dimethoxy-4-methallyloxy-PEA
100 MDA 3,4-Methylenedioxy-A
101 MDAL N-Allyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
102 MDBU N-Butyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
103 MDBZ N-Benzyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
104 MDCPM N-Cyclopropylmethyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
105 MDDM N,N-Dimethyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
106 MDE N-Ethyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
107 MDHOET N-(2-Hydroxyethyl)-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
108 MDIP N-Isopropyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
109 MDMA N-Methyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
110 MDMC N-Methyl-3,4-ethylenedioxy-A
111 MDMEO N-Methoxy-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
112 MDMEOET N-(2-Methoxyethyl)-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
113 MDMP alpha,alpha,N-Trimethyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-PEA
114 MDOH N-Hydroxy-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
115 MDPEA 3,4-Methylenedioxy-PEA
116 MDPH alpha,alpha-Dimethyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-PEA
117 MDPL N-Propargyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
118 MDPR N-Propyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
119 ME 3,4-Dimethoxy-5-ethoxy-PEA
120 MEDA 3-methoxy-4,5-Ethylenedioxy-A [Erowid corrected]
121 MEE 2-Methoxy-4,5-diethoxy-A
122 MEM 2,5-Dimethoxy-4-ethoxy-A
123 MEPEA 3-Methoxy-4-ethoxy-PEA
124 META-DOB 5-Bromo-2,4-dimethoxy-A
125 META-DOT 5-Methylthio-2,4-dimethoxy-A
126 METHYL-DMA N-Methyl-2,5-dimethoxy-A
127 METHYL-DOB 4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxy-N-methyl-A
128 METHYL-J N-Methyl-alpha-ethyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-PEA
129 METHYL-K N-Methyl-alpha-propyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-PEA
130 METHYL-MA N-Methyl-4-methoxy-A
131 METHYL-MMDA-2 N-Methyl-2-methoxy-4,5-methylenedioxy-A
132 MMDA 3-Methoxy-4,5-methylenedioxy-A
133 MMDA-2 2-Methoxy-4,5-methylenedioxy-A
134 MMDA-3a 2-Methoxy-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
135 MMDA-3b 4-Methoxy-2,3-methylenedioxy-A
136 MME 2,4-Dimethoxy-5-ethoxy-A
137 MP 3,4-Dimethoxy-5-propoxy-PEA
138 MPM 2,5-Dimethoxy-4-propoxy-A
139 ORTHO-DOT 2-Methylthio-4,5-dimethoxy-A
140 P 3,5-Dimethoxy-4-propoxy-PEA
141 PE 3,5-Dimethoxy-4-phenethyloxy-PEA
142 PEA PEA
143 PROPYNYL 4-Propynyloxy-3,5-dimethoxy-PEA
144 SB 3,5-Diethoxy-4-methoxy-PEA
145 TA 2,3,4,5-Tetramethoxy-A
146 3-TASB 4-Ethoxy-3-ethylthio-5-methoxy-PEA
147 4-TASB 3-Ethoxy-4-ethylthio-5-methoxy-PEA
148 5-TASB 3,4-Diethoxy-5-methylthio-PEA
149 TB 4-Thiobutoxy-3,5-dimethoxy-PEA
150 3-TE 4-Ethoxy-5-methoxy-3-methylthio-PEA
151 4-TE 3,5-Dimethoxy-4-ethylthio-PEA
152 2-TIM 2-Methylthio-3,4-dimethoxy-PEA
153 3-TIM 3-Methylthio-2,4-dimethoxy-PEA
154 4-TIM 4-Methylthio-2,3-dimethoxy-PEA
155 3-TM 3-Methylthio-4,5-dimethoxy-PEA
156 4-TM 4-Methylthio-3,5-dimethoxy-PEA
157 TMA 3,4,5-Trimethoxy-A
158 TMA-2 2,4,5-Trimethoxy-A
159 TMA-3 2,3,4-Trimethoxy-A
160 TMA-4 2,3,5-Trimethoxy-A
161 TMA-5 2,3,6-Trimethoxy-A
162 TMA-6 2,4,6-Trimethoxy-A
163 3-TME 4,5-Dimethoxy-3-ethylthio-PEA
164 4-TME 3-Ethoxy-5-methoxy-4-methylthio-PEA
165 5-TME 3-Ethoxy-4-methoxy-5-methylthio-PEA
166 2T-MMDA-3a 2-Methylthio-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
167 4T-MMDA-2 4,5-Thiomethyleneoxy-2-methoxy-A
168 TMPEA 2,4,5-Trimethoxy-PEA
169 2-TOET 4-Ethyl-5-methoxy-2-methylthio-A
170 5-TOET 4-Ethyl-2-methoxy-5-methylthio-A
171 2-TOM 5-Methoxy-4-methyl-2-methylthio-A
172 5-TOM 2-Methoxy-4-methyl-5-methylthio-A
173 TOMSO 2-Methoxy-4-methyl-5-methylsulfinyl-A
174 TP 4-Propylthio-3,5-dimethoxy-PEA
175 TRIS 3,4,5-Triethoxy-PEA
176 3-TSB 3-Ethoxy-5-ethylthio-4-methoxy-PEA
177 4-TSB 3,5-Diethoxy-4-methylthio-PEA
178 3-T-TRIS 4,5-Diethoxy-3-ethylthio-PEA
179 4-T-TRIS 3,5-Diethoxy-4-ethylthio-PEA

triptamine varie


1 AL-LAD 6-Allyl-N,N-diethyl-NL
2 DBT N,N-Dibutyl-T
3 DET N,N-Diethyl-T
4 DIPT N,N-Diisopropyl-T
5 alpha,O-DMS 5-Methyoxy-alpha-methyl-T
6 DMT N,N-Dimethyl-T
7 2,alpha-DMT 2,alpha-Dimethyl-T
8 alpha,N-DMT alpha,N-Dimethyl-T
9 DPT N,N-Dipropyl-T
10 EIPT N-Ethyl-N-isopropyl-T
11 alpha-ET alpha-Ethyl-T
12 ETH-LAD 6,N,N-Triethyl-NL
13 Harmaline 3,4-Dihydro-7-methoxy-1-methyl-C
14 Harmine 7-Methyoxy-1-methyl-C
15 4-HO-DBT N,N-Dibutyl-4-hydroxy-T
16 4-HO-DET N,N-Diethyl-4-hydroxy-T
17 4-HO-DIPT N,N-Diisopropyl-4-hydroxy-T
18 4-HO-DMT N,N-Dimethyl-4-hydroxy-T
19 5-HO-DMT N,N-Dimethyl-5-hydroxy-T
20 4-HO-DPT N,N-Dipropyl-4-hydroxy-T
21 4-HO-MET N-Ethyl-4-hydroxy-N-methyl-T
22 4-HO-MIPT 4-Hydroxy-N-isopropyl-N-methyl-T
23 4-HO-MPT 4-Hydroxy-N-methyl-N-propyl-T
24 4-HO-pyr-T 4-Hydroxy-N,N-tetramethylene-T
25 Ibogaine A complexly substituted-T
26 LSD N,N-Diethyl-L
27 MBT N-Butyl-N-methyl-T
28 4,5-MDO-DIPT N,N-Diisopropyl-4,5-methylenedioxy-T
29 5,6-MDO-DIPT N,N-Diisopropyl-5,6-methylenedioxy-T
30 4,5-MDO-DMT N,N-Dimethyl-4,5-methylenedioxy-T
31 5,6-MDO-DMT N,N-Dimethyl-5,6-methylenedioxy-T
32 5,6-MDO-MIPT N-Isopropyl-N-methyl-5,6-methylenedioxy-T
33 2-Me-DET N,N-Diethyl-2-methyl-T
34 2-Me-DMT 2,N,N-Trimethyl-T
35 Melatonin N-Acetyl-5-methoxy-T
36 5-MeO-DET N,N-Diethyl-5-methoxy-T
37 5-MeO-DIPT N,N-Diisopropyl-5-methoxy-T
38 5-MeO-DMT 5-Methoxy-N,N-dimethyl-T
39 4-MeO-MIPT N-Isopropyl-4-methoxy-N-methyl-T
40 5-MeO-MIPT N-Isopropyl-5-methoxy-N-methyl-T
41 5,6-MeO-MIPT 5,6-Dimethoxy-N-isopropyl-N-methyl-T
42 5-MeO-NMT 5-Methoxy-N-methyl-T
43 5-MeO-pyr-T 5-Methoxy-N,N-tetramethylene-T
44 6-MeO-THH 6-Methoxy-1-methyl-1,2,3,4-tetrahydro-C
45 5-MeO-TMT 5-Methoxy-2,N,N-trimethyl-T
46 5-MeS-DMT N,N-Dimethyl-5-methylthio-T
47 MIPT N-Isopropyl-N-methyl-T
48 alpha-MT alpha-Methyl-T
49 NET N-Ethyl-T
50 NMT N-Methyl-T
51 PRO-LAD 6-Propyl-NL
52 pyr-T N,N-Tetramethylene-T
53 T Tryptamine
54 Tetrahydroharmine 7-Methoxy-1-methyl-1,2,3,4-tetrahydro-C
55 alpha,N,O-TMS alpha,N-Dimethyl-5-methoxy-T


questi sono tutti composti psicoattivi,più o0 meno facilmente sintetizzabili in un qualsiasi laboratorio e tutte sono dei derivati variamente sostituiti delle più comuni droghe vendute (mdma, mda, sped e triptamine varie)
la probabilità di trovare mescalina in una pastiglia è del 1 per 100000.
se volete provare la mescalina pura vera...ottenetela dal cactus, ma non fatelo perchè è illegale.
ah per la cronaca una dose di mescalina sono 250mg.
quelle del cb 20mg.

[LeGaLiZzaLa]

beh ma infatti io non ho detto che ci avevo creduto...

e cmq pure guardando ecstasydata..dove ormai mi so troppo azzeccata(non so manco uscita )
si vede che nella maggiorparte dei casi so pacchi assurdi..
cmq ..tornando alle stelline poteva essere anche FoXy MeThoXy!
cmq poteva essere davvero di tutto..

[L'alchimista]

foxy metoxi?
5-meo-DMT dici?

5-MeO-DIPT Duration
Oral
Total Duration
6 - 12 hrs
Onset
20 - 90 mins
Coming Up
10 - 50 mins
Plateau
2 - 5 hrs
Coming Down
3 - 5 hrs
After Effects
1 - 24 hrs
Hangover / Day After

dose

Oral
Threshold 3 mg
Light 5 - 10 mg
Common 8 - 15 mg
Strong 15 - 30 mg

poi sinceramente "sbllare sballavano" che cazzo significa? anche una testata contro il muro sballa, ...ma farvele analizzare prima o comprarvi il test casalingo no? mi sono rotto i coglioni di chi si mangia le pastiglie e poi chiede su un forum cosa era, se ti mangi una pastiglia di quello che contiene

[L'alchimista]

EcstasyData.org: Tablet 13: Aladdin (Gel Cap, Capsule) - Ecstasy Pill Reports

mangi 3 di queste e vai al creatore

[LeGaLiZzaLa]

5 - MeO-DIPT
(metossi diisopropil triptamina)
Indolici
Foxy Methoxy, Foxy


Assunzione :Orale
Effetti : Apertura emotiva, proprietà empatogene, aumento della libido, euforia, aumento della sensibilità tattile, olfattiva.
Effetti avversi : Disturbi gastro - enterici (gas, vomito).

da indolico mi aspetto anche qualcosina di psichedelico..

cmq finalmente ho capito che cazzo c'era in una pasta..bla bla bla
il dxm l'avevo sottovalutato..che a quanto vedo è abbastanza diffuso nelle paste..vabbè abbastanza in senso lato naturalmente..

gnugno devo contraddirti sul fatto di comprare le paste o altro da chi capita..
non è che si può camminare con il kit dietro..
credo che a quasi nessuno passi per la mente l'idea di calarsi quache pasta davanti al pc..o a casa..cioè può anche capitare..ma di solito lo di fa in feste,rave,concerti ecc ecc..e quindi se si ha qualcuno di fiducia si va da lui..altrimenti ci si affida..anche perchè comprarle prima e portarsele dietro..a volte è rischioso..cause controlli..

quindi ci si affida alla sorte..un po anche questo è il bello..anzi non c'è niente di bello..ulteriore effetto del proibizionismo
quando sono capsule di md..per testarle..una la sniffo (quasi)sempre prima..da li capisco se mi hanno mollato un pacco o no..per il resto..solo tanto culo..
però con il tempo..inizi a capire dalla faccia di chi te levende se son pacchi ..

[grandegenio]

[QUOTE]gnugno devo contraddirti sul fatto di comprare le paste o altro da chi capita..
non

[L'alchimista]

io anche sono sottocassa imballato duro, se devo prendere una pasta tiro fuori il mio specchietto per sniffare, ci gratto sopra un po' di chicca, ci faccio cadere su la goccia e dal colore capisco se