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  • Ailis
    Banana
    • 06/05/05
    • 5301

    #46
    [QUOTE=conogelato;928059]I soldi sono davvero la rovina dell'umanit
    "Nulla si sa, tutto si immagina"
    Federico Fellini

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    • nAn
      non ho pi
      • 16/02/07
      • 2996

      #47
      Punti di vista Francé, per me oggi non conta più lo spostamento di capitali ma lo spostamento di produzione, e lo spostamento di produzione non è piccolo ma significativo, anzi, storico.

      Sul link niente da dire, la reazione asiatica è stata previdente, intelligente. Complimenti a Zhang se sta gestendo l'operazione lui. Conterranno i rimbalzi.
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      • labutino
        Banned
        • 13/09/07
        • 688

        #48
        Originariamente Scritto da Cornolio Visualizza Messaggio
        boh guarda, la russia mi puzza. fai che si alleano con la cina e l'india, e si formano un asse di alleanza occidentale ed uno orientale

        se la russia continua a camminare nella stessa relazione. se.
        senti, sappiamo benissimo che questi sono comunque discorsi di fantapolitica. comunque secondo me la russia tenter

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        • Cornolio
          hep
          • 28/09/04
          • 20779

          #49
          non è fantapolitica c'è già chi parla di nuova guerra fredda... io non sto dicendo questo, sto dicendo che la russia sta prendendo una strada un po' preoccupante per i risvolti geopolitici

          e che... forse... cina india eccetera blabla..
          nubi all'orizzonte che prima non si vedevano

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          • Gala
            encore fou
            • 22/04/08
            • 800

            #50
            [QUOTE=Cornolio;927744]Se mai imparerai a dividere in paragrafi... ma fino a quel punto l'unico lettore che avrai sar
            [SIZE="1"]tu si femmena. chist

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            • Gloucester
              Opinionista
              • 29/03/06
              • 5314

              #51
              Originariamente Scritto da Gala Visualizza Messaggio
              ha anche me come lettrice.
              interessata. sempre.

              (e generosa, a perdonargli due volte Roosvelt senza mandarlo nelle perle... )
              Gosh.

              Roosevelt, chiedo venia.

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              • Matthias J
                ...assente!
                • 30/03/08
                • 1888

                #52
                Non ti crucciare, non sei in forma, non
                [I][SIZE="1"]"Se un uomo non

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                • Gloucester
                  Opinionista
                  • 29/03/06
                  • 5314

                  #53
                  Proprio su di un campo di rose, dovevo cadere...

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                  • nAn
                    non ho pi
                    • 16/02/07
                    • 2996

                    #54
                    Salvata l'AIG con un mega prestito di 85 MILIARDI DI DOLLARI!
                    Secondo voi,
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                    • conogelato
                      Candle in the wind

                      • 17/07/06
                      • 66028

                      #55
                      Ne dessero mai 1 per la fame nel mondo, eccheccavolo!!!
                      amate i vostri nemici

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                      • nAn
                        non ho pi
                        • 16/02/07
                        • 2996

                        #56
                        Tremonti: "Il capitalismo è allo sbando, la crisi si aggraverà"

                        La crisi finanziaria internazionale: "Può aggravarsi, nel mondo e in Italia", dichiara.
                        Giù le tasse. "In 120 giorni - sostiene il ministro - abbiamo detassato due cespiti fondamentali, la casa e il lavoro. Faremo la riduzione fiscale in funzione dell'economia e dell'andamento dei conti pubblici. Dovrà anche essere valutato il dividendo che si produrrà con l'introduzione de federalismo fiscale. E avverrà, come indicato dal programma, sull'arco di una legislatura che dura cinque anni".
                        La Finanziaria. Sarà prosentata nei prossimi giorni, confermerà le misure contenute nel decreto legge 112, che, di fatto, ha anticipato la manovra. Ma, puntualizza Tremonti, "il contesto internazionale impedisce di fare valutazioni diverse da quelle effettuate". Quanto al federalismo fiscale, sarà "definito nel collegato alla Finanziaria".

                        Il NYTimes:

                        WASHINGTON — Fearing a financial crisis worldwide, the Federal Reserve reversed course on Tuesday and agreed to an $85 billion bailout that would give the government control of the troubled insurance giant American International Group.

                        The decision, only two weeks after the Treasury took over the federally chartered mortgage finance companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, is the most radical intervention in private business in the central bank’s history.

                        With time running out after A.I.G. failed to get a bank loan to avoid bankruptcy, Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson Jr. and the Fed chairman, Ben S. Bernanke, convened a meeting with House and Senate leaders on Capitol Hill about 6:30 p.m. Tuesday to explain the rescue plan. They emerged just after 7:30 p.m. with Mr. Paulson and Mr. Bernanke looking grim, but with top lawmakers initially expressing support for the plan. But the bailout is likely to prove controversial, because it effectively puts taxpayer money at risk while protecting bad investments made by A.I.G. and other institutions it does business with.

                        What frightened Fed and Treasury officials was not simply the prospect of another giant corporate bankruptcy, but A.I.G.’s role as an enormous provider of esoteric financial insurance contracts to investors who bought complex debt securities. They effectively required A.I.G. to cover losses suffered by the buyers in the event the securities defaulted. It meant A.I.G. was potentially on the hook for billions of dollars’ worth of risky securities that were once considered safe.

                        If A.I.G. had collapsed — and been unable to pay all of its insurance claims — institutional investors around the world would have been instantly forced to reappraise the value of those securities, and that in turn would have reduced their own capital and the value of their own debt. Small investors, including anyone who owned money market funds with A.I.G. securities, could have been hurt, too. And some insurance policy holders were worried, even though they have some protections.

                        “It would have been a chain reaction,” said Uwe Reinhardt, a professor of economics at Princeton University. “The spillover effects could have been incredible.”

                        Financial markets, which on Monday had plunged over worries about A.I.G.’s possible collapse and the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers, reacted with relief to the news of the bailout. In anticipation of a deal, stocks rose about 1 percent in the United States on Tuesday.

                        On Wednesday, European stocks were slightly stronger in mixed afternoon trading, but an early rally in Asia lost steam on concerns about the American financial system and China’s economy. United States stock futures were down slightly; in anticipation of a deal, stocks had risen about 1 percent in the United States on Tuesday.

                        Still, the rescue will likely start an intense political debate during the presidential election campaign over who is to blame for the financial crisis that prompted the rescue.

                        Representative Barney Frank, Democrat of Massachusetts and chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, said Mr. Paulson and Mr. Bernanke had not requested any new legislative authority for the bailout at Tuesday night’s meeting. “The secretary and the chairman of the Fed, two Bush appointees, came down here and said, ‘We’re from the government, we’re here to help them,’ ” Mr. Frank said. “I mean this is one more affirmation that the lack of regulation has caused serious problems. That the private market screwed itself up and they need the government to come help them unscrew it.”

                        House Speaker Nancy Pelosi quickly criticized the rescue, calling the $85 billion a "staggering sum." Ms. Pelosi said the bailout was "just too enormous for the American people to guarantee." Her comments suggested that the Bush administration and the Fed would face sharp questioning in Congressional hearings. President Bush was briefed earlier in the afternoon.

                        A major concern is that the A.I.G. rescue won’t be the last. At Tuesday night’s meeting. lawmakers asked if there was any way of knowing if this would be the final major government intervention. Mr. Bernanke and Mr. Paulson said there was not. Indeed, the markets remain worried about the financial condition of major regional banks as well as that of Washington Mutual, the nation’s largest thrift.

                        The decision was a remarkable turnaround by the Bush administration and Mr. Paulson, who had flatly refused over the weekend to risk taxpayer money to prevent the collapse of Lehman Brothers or the distressed sale of Merrill Lynch to Bank of America. Earlier this year, the government bailed out another investment bank, Bear Stearns, by engineering a sale to JPMorgan Chase that left taxpayers on the hook for up to $29 billion of bad investments by Bear Stearns. The government hoped at the time that this unusual step would both calm markets and lead to a recovery by the financial system. But critics warned at the time that it would only encourage others to seek bailouts, and the eventual costs to the government would be staggering.

                        The decision to rescue A.I.G. came on the same day that the Fed decided to leave its benchmark interest rate unchanged at 2 percent, turning aside hopes by many on Wall Street that the Fed would try to shore up confidence by cutting rates once again.

                        Fed and Treasury officials initially turned a cold shoulder to A.I.G. when company executives pleaded on Sunday night for the Fed to provide a $40 billion bridge loan to stave off a crippling downgrade of its credit ratings as a result of investment losses that totalled tens of billions of dollars.
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                        • nAn
                          non ho pi
                          • 16/02/07
                          • 2996

                          #57
                          Joseph Stiglitz: "Il governo Usa è obbligato ad usare forme di welfare e pro-welfare socialista per rianimare un morto, la morte apparente è in un caso su mille, ci sono troppe speranze vane che penalizzeranno i cittadini del mondo.."
                          Continua: "Bisogna arrendersi all'evidenza che bisogna cambiare totalmente il libero mercato della concezione odierna."
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                          • crepuscolo
                            Opinionista
                            • 08/10/07
                            • 24570

                            #58
                            [QUOTE=Matthias J

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                            • conogelato
                              Candle in the wind

                              • 17/07/06
                              • 66028

                              #59
                              Te, tanto, sei in pensione....
                              amate i vostri nemici

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                              • nAn
                                non ho pi
                                • 16/02/07
                                • 2996

                                #60
                                Oggi grazie al prestito le borse dovrebbero salire di un 2% medio internazionale, almeno per riprendere un po' dei soldi buttati in varie ricapitalizzazioni, altro giorno chiave.

                                Per ora il mercato non reagisce ma c'
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