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  • VENOM
    Opinionista
    • 30/06/10
    • 11

    #46
    infatti ho detto futuro imminente. Entro 2-3 anni Seven sarà roba vecchia. Meglio approfittarne

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    • TheStalker
      Opinionista
      • 04/02/10
      • 116

      #47
      ormai il mondo pc è cosi, sempre in continuo aggiornamento, inutilmente, e con noi che paghiamo per una scheda madre che passa da ddr2 a ddr3, con un aumento generale del 5%..

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      • VENOM
        Opinionista
        • 30/06/10
        • 11

        #48
        Legge di Moore. Affascinante!

        Anche se il cambiare sempre pi

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        • iron_maiden89b
          • 29/09/04
          • 18917

          #49
          io vorrei capire che cosa significa "veloce" per un utente windows.
          perché per me non è veloce 7

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          • VENOM
            Opinionista
            • 30/06/10
            • 11

            #50
            per te cosa è veloce?

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            • TheStalker
              Opinionista
              • 04/02/10
              • 116

              #51
              la lamborghini sisi

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              • iron_maiden89b
                • 29/09/04
                • 18917

                #52
                per esempio per me è veloce una cosa che non ci mette due minuti ad avviarsi e ad essere operativo.
                o che si bloccano le finestre senza un apparente motivo




                anche la lamborghini


                comunque avrei gradito una risposta, non una domanda

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                • TheStalker
                  Opinionista
                  • 04/02/10
                  • 116

                  #53
                  allora, prima di tutto
                  componenti pc.
                  seconda cosa, fai la deframmentazione? pulizia del registro del sistema, internet con qualche programma? (ccleaner, tune up)

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                  • iron_maiden89b
                    • 29/09/04
                    • 18917

                    #54
                    amd64*2 2GHz
                    4Gb ram
                    128Mb scheda video 400MHz

                    non deframmento perché lo uso solo per collegare il cellulare con Samsung PC Studio (o operazioni simili)
                    non uso programmi per la pulizia del sistema perché non vado in internet. solo antivirus per sicurezza
                    faccio gli aggiornamenti online quando lo uso



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                    • TheStalker
                      Opinionista
                      • 04/02/10
                      • 116

                      #55
                      che mi dici amd 64 mi hai detto cazzi
                      dimmi per bene il nome del procio, e la scheda video se non erro è integrata alla mobo, indi cagata.
                      e per quale motivo quindi tieni 4 gb di ram con una video integrata?
                      non me lo dire.. pc preso all'euronics, erro?

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                      • Dutch
                        Opinionista
                        • 20/04/07
                        • 2497

                        #56
                        Originariamente Scritto da TheStalker Visualizza Messaggio
                        allora, prima di tutto
                        componenti pc.
                        seconda cosa, fai la deframmentazione? pulizia del registro del sistema, internet con qualche programma? (ccleaner, tune up)
                        I programmi di pulizia del registro, checchesenedica, sono pericolosi e ho qualche dubbio sulla reale efficacia.

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                        • iron_maiden89b
                          • 29/09/04
                          • 18917

                          #57
                          cazzi64*2 2GHz

                          buon divertimento
                          Codice:
                          ~$ sudo lshw
                          laptop                    
                              description: Notebook
                              product: EASYNOTE_MX61-B-043
                              vendor: Packard Bell BV
                              version: PB95E03906
                              serial: 107025970384
                              width: 64 bits
                              capabilities: smbios-2.4 dmi-2.4 vsyscall64 vsyscall32
                              configuration: chassis=notebook uuid=CA722B00-001F-C61A-6606-4E45435F4349
                            *-core
                                 description: Motherboard
                                 product: T12KV
                                 vendor: PACKARD BELL BV
                                 physical id: 0
                                 version: 1.0
                                 serial: BSN12345678901234567
                                 slot: MIDDLE
                               *-firmware
                                    description: BIOS
                                    vendor: American Megatrends Inc.
                                    physical id: 0
                                    version: 207 (10/23/2007)
                                    size: 64KiB
                                    capacity: 448KiB
                                    capabilities: isa pci pnp upgrade shadowing escd cdboot bootselect edd int13floppy1200 int13floppy720 int13floppy2880 int5printscreen int9keyboard int17printer int10video acpi usb smartbattery biosbootspecification
                               *-cpu
                                    description: CPU
                                    product: AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-60
                                    vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
                                    physical id: 4
                                    bus info: cpu@0
                                    version: AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-60
                                    serial: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
                                    slot: CPU 1
                                    size: 800MHz
                                    capacity: 2GHz
                                    width: 64 bits
                                    clock: 200MHz
                                    capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp x86-64 3dnowext 3dnow rep_good extd_apicid pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch cpufreq
                                  *-cache:0
                                       description: L1 cache
                                       physical id: 5
                                       slot: L1-Cache
                                       size: 256KiB
                                       capacity: 256KiB
                                       capabilities: pipeline-burst internal varies data
                                  *-cache:1
                                       description: L2 cache
                                       physical id: 6
                                       slot: L2-Cache
                                       size: 1MiB
                                       capacity: 1MiB
                                       capabilities: pipeline-burst internal varies unified
                               *-memory
                                    description: System Memory
                                    physical id: 23
                                    slot: System board or motherboard
                                    size: 4GiB
                                  *-bank:0
                                       description: DIMM DDR2 Synchronous 333 MHz (3.0 ns)
                                       product: PartNum0
                                       vendor: Manufacturer0
                                       physical id: 0
                                       serial: SerNum0
                                       slot: DIMM0
                                       size: 2GiB
                                       width: 64 bits
                                       clock: 333MHz (3.0ns)
                                  *-bank:1
                                       description: DIMM DDR2 Synchronous 333 MHz (3.0 ns)
                                       product: PartNum1
                                       vendor: Manufacturer1
                                       physical id: 1
                                       serial: SerNum1
                                       slot: DIMM1
                                       size: 2GiB
                                       width: 64 bits
                                       clock: 333MHz (3.0ns)
                               *-pci:0
                                    description: Host bridge
                                    product: RS690 Host Bridge
                                    vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                                    physical id: 100
                                    bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
                                    version: 00
                                    width: 32 bits
                                    clock: 66MHz
                                  *-pci:0
                                       description: PCI bridge
                                       product: RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express Graphics Port 0)
                                       vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                                       physical id: 2
                                       bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
                                       version: 00
                                       width: 32 bits
                                       clock: 33MHz
                                       capabilities: pci pm pciexpress msi ht bus_master cap_list
                                       configuration: driver=pcieport
                                       resources: irq:24 ioport:8000(size=4096) memory:fd800000-fd8fffff ioport:cbf00000(size=268435456)
                                     *-display
                                          description: VGA compatible controller
                                          product: Mobility Radeon HD 2400
                                          vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                                          physical id: 0
                                          bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
                                          version: 00
                                          width: 32 bits
                                          clock: 33MHz
                                          capabilities: pm pciexpress msi bus_master cap_list rom
                                          configuration: driver=fglrx_pci latency=0
                                          resources: irq:28 memory:d0000000-d7ffffff(prefetchable) ioport:8800(size=256) memory:fd8f0000-fd8fffff memory:fd8c0000-fd8dffff(prefetchable)
                                     *-multimedia
                                          description: Audio device
                                          product: RV610 audio device [Radeon HD 2400 PRO]
                                          vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                                          physical id: 0.1
                                          bus info: pci@0000:01:00.1
                                          version: 00
                                          width: 32 bits
                                          clock: 33MHz
                                          capabilities: pm pciexpress msi bus_master cap_list
                                          configuration: driver=HDA Intel latency=0
                                          resources: irq:19 memory:fd8ec000-fd8effff
                                  *-pci:1
                                       description: PCI bridge
                                       product: ATI Technologies Inc
                                       vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                                       physical id: 4
                                       bus info: pci@0000:00:04.0
                                       version: 00
                                       width: 32 bits
                                       clock: 33MHz
                                       capabilities: pci pm pciexpress msi ht bus_master cap_list
                                       configuration: driver=pcieport
                                       resources: irq:25 ioport:9000(size=8192) memory:fd900000-fe8fffff ioport:dbf00000(size=67108864)
                                  *-pci:2
                                       description: PCI bridge
                                       product: RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express Port 2)
                                       vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                                       physical id: 6
                                       bus info: pci@0000:00:06.0
                                       version: 00
                                       width: 32 bits
                                       clock: 33MHz
                                       capabilities: pci pm pciexpress msi ht bus_master cap_list
                                       configuration: driver=pcieport
                                       resources: irq:26
                                  *-pci:3
                                       description: PCI bridge
                                       product: RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express Port 3)
                                       vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                                       physical id: 7
                                       bus info: pci@0000:00:07.0
                                       version: 00
                                       width: 32 bits
                                       clock: 33MHz
                                       capabilities: pci pm pciexpress msi ht bus_master cap_list
                                       configuration: driver=pcieport
                                       resources: irq:27 memory:fe900000-fe9fffff
                                     *-network
                                          description: Wireless interface
                                          product: AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter
                                          vendor: Atheros Communications Inc.
                                          physical id: 0
                                          bus info: pci@0000:06:00.0
                                          logical name: wlan0
                                          version: 01
                                          serial: 00:15:af:2e:3c:c9
                                          width: 64 bits
                                          clock: 33MHz
                                          capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
                                          configuration: broadcast=yes driver=ath5k ip=29.237.18.117 latency=0 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bg
                                          resources: irq:19 memory:fe9f0000-fe9fffff
                                  *-storage
                                       description: SATA controller
                                       product: SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA
                                       vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                                       physical id: 12
                                       bus info: pci@0000:00:12.0
                                       logical name: scsi2
                                       version: 00
                                       width: 32 bits
                                       clock: 66MHz
                                       capabilities: storage pm bus_master cap_list emulated
                                       configuration: driver=ahci latency=64
                                       resources: irq:22 ioport:e800(size=8) ioport:e400(size=4) ioport:e000(size=8) ioport:dc00(size=4) ioport:d800(size=16) memory:febffc00-febfffff
                                     *-disk
                                          description: ATA Disk
                                          product: ST9250827AS
                                          vendor: Seagate
                                          physical id: 0.0.0
                                          bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0
                                          logical name: /dev/sda
                                          version: 3.AA
                                          serial: 5RG06GKS
                                          size: 232GiB (250GB)
                                          capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
                                          configuration: ansiversion=5 signature=071ef670
                                        *-volume:0
                                             description: Windows NTFS volume
                                             physical id: 1
                                             bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0,1
                                             logical name: /dev/sda1
                                             version: 3.1
                                             serial: f868-22da
                                             size: 98MiB
                                             capacity: 100MiB
                                             capabilities: primary ntfs initialized
                                             configuration: clustersize=4096 created=2009-11-16 16:42:30 filesystem=ntfs label=Riservato per il sistema state=clean
                                        *-volume:1
                                             description: Windows NTFS volume
                                             physical id: 2
                                             bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0,2
                                             logical name: /dev/sda2
                                             logical name: /media/windows
                                             version: 3.1
                                             serial: 50a6733e-9603-f443-9722-89763abc1f29
                                             size: 48GiB
                                             capacity: 48GiB
                                             capabilities: primary ntfs initialized
                                             configuration: clustersize=4096 created=2009-11-16 16:42:57 filesystem=ntfs modified_by_chkdsk=true mount.fstype=fuseblk mount.options=rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096 mounted_on_nt4=true resize_log_file=true state=mounted upgrade_on_mount=true
                                        *-volume:2
                                             description: EXT4 volume
                                             vendor: Linux
                                             physical id: 3
                                             bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0,3
                                             logical name: /dev/sda3
                                             logical name: /
                                             version: 1.0
                                             serial: e85546eb-2e88-41a1-9511-0e384d7f6c52
                                             size: 23GiB
                                             capacity: 23GiB
                                             capabilities: primary bootable journaled extended_attributes large_files huge_files dir_nlink recover extents ext4 ext2 initialized
                                             configuration: created=2010-04-30 00:28:25 filesystem=ext4 lastmountpoint=/=�;(=�6�����8������8���l/����n�����@�,7� modified=2010-06-28 20:33:02 mount.fstype=ext4 mount.options=rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,barrier=1,data=ordered mounted=2010-06-30 14:29:23 state=mounted
                                        *-volume:3
                                             description: Extended partition
                                             physical id: 4
                                             bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0,4
                                             logical name: /dev/sda4
                                             size: 160GiB
                                             capacity: 160GiB
                                             capabilities: primary extended partitioned partitioned:extended
                                           *-logicalvolume:0
                                                description: Linux swap / Solaris partition
                                                physical id: 5
                                                logical name: /dev/sda5
                                                capacity: 478MiB
                                                capabilities: nofs
                                           *-logicalvolume:1
                                                description: Linux filesystem partition
                                                physical id: 6
                                                logical name: /dev/sda6
                                                logical name: /media/sda
                                                capacity: 160GiB
                                                configuration: mount.fstype=ext3 mount.options=rw,relatime,errors=continue,data=ordered state=mounted
                                  *-usb:0
                                       description: USB Controller
                                       product: SB600 USB (OHCI0)
                                       vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                                       physical id: 13
                                       bus info: pci@0000:00:13.0
                                       version: 00
                                       width: 32 bits
                                       clock: 66MHz
                                       capabilities: bus_master
                                       configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=64
                                       resources: irq:16 memory:febfe000-febfefff
                                  *-usb:1
                                       description: USB Controller
                                       product: SB600 USB (OHCI1)
                                       vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                                       physical id: 13.1
                                       bus info: pci@0000:00:13.1
                                       version: 00
                                       width: 32 bits
                                       clock: 66MHz
                                       capabilities: bus_master
                                       configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=64
                                       resources: irq:17 memory:febfd000-febfdfff
                                  *-usb:2
                                       description: USB Controller
                                       product: SB600 USB (OHCI2)
                                       vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                                       physical id: 13.2
                                       bus info: pci@0000:00:13.2
                                       version: 00
                                       width: 32 bits
                                       clock: 66MHz
                                       capabilities: bus_master
                                       configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=64
                                       resources: irq:18 memory:febfc000-febfcfff
                                  *-usb:3
                                       description: USB Controller
                                       product: SB600 USB (OHCI3)
                                       vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                                       physical id: 13.3
                                       bus info: pci@0000:00:13.3
                                       version: 00
                                       width: 32 bits
                                       clock: 66MHz
                                       capabilities: bus_master
                                       configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=64
                                       resources: irq:17 memory:febfb000-febfbfff
                                  *-usb:4
                                       description: USB Controller
                                       product: SB600 USB (OHCI4)
                                       vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                                       physical id: 13.4
                                       bus info: pci@0000:00:13.4
                                       version: 00
                                       width: 32 bits
                                       clock: 66MHz
                                       capabilities: bus_master
                                       configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=64
                                       resources: irq:18 memory:febfa000-febfafff
                                  *-usb:5
                                       description: USB Controller
                                       product: SB600 USB Controller (EHCI)
                                       vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                                       physical id: 13.5
                                       bus info: pci@0000:00:13.5
                                       version: 00
                                       width: 32 bits
                                       clock: 66MHz
                                       capabilities: pm debug bus_master cap_list
                                       configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=64
                                       resources: irq:19 memory:febff800-febff8ff
                                  *-serial UNCLAIMED
                                       description: SMBus
                                       product: SBx00 SMBus Controller
                                       vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                                       physical id: 14
                                       bus info: pci@0000:00:14.0
                                       version: 14
                                       width: 32 bits
                                       clock: 66MHz
                                       capabilities: ht cap_list
                                       configuration: latency=0
                                       resources: ioport:b00(size=16)
                                  *-ide
                                       description: IDE interface
                                       product: SB600 IDE
                                       vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                                       physical id: 14.1
                                       bus info: pci@0000:00:14.1
                                       logical name: scsi0
                                       version: 00
                                       width: 32 bits
                                       clock: 66MHz
                                       capabilities: ide bus_master emulated
                                       configuration: driver=pata_atiixp latency=64
                                       resources: irq:16 ioport:1f0(size=8) ioport:3f6 ioport:170(size=8) ioport:376 ioport:ff00(size=16)
                                     *-cdrom
                                          description: DVD writer
                                          product: DVD RW AD-5540A
                                          vendor: Optiarc
                                          physical id: 0.0.0
                                          bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0
                                          logical name: /dev/cdrom
                                          logical name: /dev/cdrw
                                          logical name: /dev/dvd
                                          logical name: /dev/dvdrw
                                          logical name: /dev/scd0
                                          logical name: /dev/sr0
                                          version: 2.63
                                          serial: [Optiarc DVD RW AD-5540A 2.63 Apr27,2007
                                          capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r
                                          configuration: ansiversion=5 status=nodisc
                                  *-multimedia
                                       description: Audio device
                                       product: SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
                                       vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                                       physical id: 14.2
                                       bus info: pci@0000:00:14.2
                                       version: 00
                                       width: 64 bits
                                       clock: 33MHz
                                       capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
                                       configuration: driver=HDA Intel latency=64
                                       resources: irq:16 memory:febf4000-febf7fff
                                  *-isa
                                       description: ISA bridge
                                       product: SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge
                                       vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                                       physical id: 14.3
                                       bus info: pci@0000:00:14.3
                                       version: 00
                                       width: 32 bits
                                       clock: 66MHz
                                       capabilities: isa bus_master
                                       configuration: latency=0
                                  *-pci:4
                                       description: PCI bridge
                                       product: SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
                                       vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                                       physical id: 14.4
                                       bus info: pci@0000:00:14.4
                                       version: 00
                                       width: 32 bits
                                       clock: 66MHz
                                       capabilities: pci bus_master
                                       resources: ioport:b000(size=4096) memory:fea00000-feafffff
                                     *-firewire
                                          description: FireWire (IEEE 1394)
                                          product: R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller
                                          vendor: Ricoh Co Ltd
                                          physical id: 1
                                          bus info: pci@0000:07:01.0
                                          version: 05
                                          width: 32 bits
                                          clock: 33MHz
                                          capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
                                          configuration: driver=ohci1394 latency=64 maxlatency=4 mingnt=2
                                          resources: irq:21 memory:feaff800-feafffff
                                     *-generic:0
                                          description: SD Host controller
                                          product: R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter
                                          vendor: Ricoh Co Ltd
                                          physical id: 1.1
                                          bus info: pci@0000:07:01.1
                                          version: 22
                                          width: 32 bits
                                          clock: 33MHz
                                          capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
                                          configuration: driver=sdhci-pci latency=64
                                          resources: irq:22 memory:feaff400-feaff4ff
                                     *-generic:1
                                          description: System peripheral
                                          product: R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter
                                          vendor: Ricoh Co Ltd
                                          physical id: 1.2
                                          bus info: pci@0000:07:01.2
                                          version: 12
                                          width: 32 bits
                                          clock: 33MHz
                                          capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
                                          configuration: driver=ricoh-mmc latency=64
                                          resources: irq:11 memory:feaff000-feaff0ff
                                     *-generic:2 UNCLAIMED
                                          product: Illegal Vendor ID
                                          vendor: Illegal Vendor ID
                                          physical id: 1.3
                                          bus info: pci@0000:07:01.3
                                          version: ff
                                          width: 32 bits
                                          clock: 66MHz
                                          capabilities: bus_master vga_palette cap_list
                                          configuration: latency=255 maxlatency=255 mingnt=255
                                          resources: memory:feafec00-feafecff
                                     *-network
                                          description: Ethernet interface
                                          product: RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
                                          vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
                                          physical id: 7
                                          bus info: pci@0000:07:07.0
                                          logical name: eth0
                                          version: 10
                                          serial: 00:1f:c6:1a:66:06
                                          size: 10MB/s
                                          capacity: 100MB/s
                                          width: 32 bits
                                          clock: 33MHz
                                          capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
                                          configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=8139too driverversion=0.9.28 duplex=half latency=64 link=no maxlatency=64 mingnt=32 multicast=yes port=MII speed=10MB/s
                                          resources: irq:20 ioport:b800(size=256) memory:feafe800-feafe8ff
                               *-pci:1
                                    description: Host bridge
                                    product: K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
                                    vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
                                    physical id: 101
                                    bus info: pci@0000:00:18.0
                                    version: 00
                                    width: 32 bits
                                    clock: 33MHz
                               *-pci:2
                                    description: Host bridge
                                    product: K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
                                    vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
                                    physical id: 102
                                    bus info: pci@0000:00:18.1
                                    version: 00
                                    width: 32 bits
                                    clock: 33MHz
                               *-pci:3
                                    description: Host bridge
                                    product: K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
                                    vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
                                    physical id: 103
                                    bus info: pci@0000:00:18.2
                                    version: 00
                                    width: 32 bits
                                    clock: 33MHz
                               *-pci:4
                                    description: Host bridge
                                    product: K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
                                    vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
                                    physical id: 104
                                    bus info: pci@0000:00:18.3
                                    version: 00
                                    width: 32 bits
                                    clock: 33MHz
                                    configuration: driver=k8temp
                                    resources: irq:0
                          non pensavo ti cambiasse molto sapere se ho un'integrata o se ho una ati hd2400
                          ai fini dell'utilizzo desktop non cambia granch

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                          • TheStalker
                            Opinionista
                            • 04/02/10
                            • 116

                            #58
                            ooh ecco qua
                            dual core, su un notebook, bene.
                            Escludiamo il problema del procio lento.
                            Quindi ritorniamo al concetto della deframmentazione,
                            pulizia del registro ecc (che non hanno alcun problema, parola mia)
                            e programmi installati alla cazzo.

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                            • iron_maiden89b
                              • 29/09/04
                              • 18917

                              #59
                              vediamo se mi ricordo i programmi:
                              samsung pc studio
                              vlc
                              firefox
                              antivirus (non ricordo quale)
                              e trainz simulator

                              non so cosa intendi per "programmi installati alla cazzo" perché non credevo ci fossero tanti modi per installarli

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                              • TheStalker
                                Opinionista
                                • 04/02/10
                                • 116

                                #60
                                intendo quelle minchiate che ti mettono appena comprati, quali utility inutili, antivirus zingari cosi come firewall di 30 giorni.
                                dimmi antivirus e firewall per favore xD

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