Windows 7 si o no?

**VENOM** · 30-06-2010, 14:14

infatti ho detto futuro imminente. Entro 2-3 anni Seven sarà roba vecchia. Meglio approfittarne

**TheStalker** · 30-06-2010, 14:18

ormai il mondo pc è cosi, sempre in continuo aggiornamento, inutilmente, e con noi che paghiamo per una scheda madre che passa da ddr2 a ddr3, con un aumento generale del 5%..

**VENOM** · 30-06-2010, 14:23

Legge di Moore. Affascinante!

Anche se il cambiare sempre pi

**iron_maiden89b** · 30-06-2010, 14:40

io vorrei capire che cosa significa "veloce" per un utente windows.
perché per me non è veloce 7

**VENOM** · 30-06-2010, 14:51

per te cosa è veloce?

**TheStalker** · 30-06-2010, 15:26

la lamborghini sisi

**iron_maiden89b** · 30-06-2010, 15:29

per esempio per me è veloce una cosa che non ci mette due minuti ad avviarsi e ad essere operativo.
o che si bloccano le finestre senza un apparente motivo

anche la lamborghini

comunque avrei gradito una risposta, non una domanda

**TheStalker** · 30-06-2010, 16:13

allora, prima di tutto
componenti pc.
seconda cosa, fai la deframmentazione? pulizia del registro del sistema, internet con qualche programma? (ccleaner, tune up)

**iron_maiden89b** · 30-06-2010, 16:35

amd64*2 2GHz
4Gb ram
128Mb scheda video 400MHz

non deframmento perché lo uso solo per collegare il cellulare con Samsung PC Studio (o operazioni simili)
non uso programmi per la pulizia del sistema perché non vado in internet. solo antivirus per sicurezza
faccio gli aggiornamenti online quando lo uso

**TheStalker** · 30-06-2010, 17:01

che mi dici amd 64 mi hai detto cazzi

dimmi per bene il nome del procio, e la scheda video se non erro è integrata alla mobo, indi cagata.
e per quale motivo quindi tieni 4 gb di ram con una video integrata?
non me lo dire.. pc preso all'euronics, erro?

**Dutch** · 30-06-2010, 20:09

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allora, prima di tutto
componenti pc.
seconda cosa, fai la deframmentazione? pulizia del registro del sistema, internet con qualche programma? (ccleaner, tune up)

I programmi di pulizia del registro, checchesenedica, sono pericolosi e ho qualche dubbio sulla reale efficacia.

**iron_maiden89b** · 30-06-2010, 20:09

cazzi64*2 2GHz

buon divertimento

Codice:

~$ sudo lshw
laptop                    
    description: Notebook
    product: EASYNOTE_MX61-B-043
    vendor: Packard Bell BV
    version: PB95E03906
    serial: 107025970384
    width: 64 bits
    capabilities: smbios-2.4 dmi-2.4 vsyscall64 vsyscall32
    configuration: chassis=notebook uuid=CA722B00-001F-C61A-6606-4E45435F4349
  *-core
       description: Motherboard
       product: T12KV
       vendor: PACKARD BELL BV
       physical id: 0
       version: 1.0
       serial: BSN12345678901234567
       slot: MIDDLE
     *-firmware
          description: BIOS
          vendor: American Megatrends Inc.
          physical id: 0
          version: 207 (10/23/2007)
          size: 64KiB
          capacity: 448KiB
          capabilities: isa pci pnp upgrade shadowing escd cdboot bootselect edd int13floppy1200 int13floppy720 int13floppy2880 int5printscreen int9keyboard int17printer int10video acpi usb smartbattery biosbootspecification
     *-cpu
          description: CPU
          product: AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-60
          vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
          physical id: 4
          bus info: cpu@0
          version: AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-60
          serial: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
          slot: CPU 1
          size: 800MHz
          capacity: 2GHz
          width: 64 bits
          clock: 200MHz
          capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp x86-64 3dnowext 3dnow rep_good extd_apicid pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch cpufreq
        *-cache:0
             description: L1 cache
             physical id: 5
             slot: L1-Cache
             size: 256KiB
             capacity: 256KiB
             capabilities: pipeline-burst internal varies data
        *-cache:1
             description: L2 cache
             physical id: 6
             slot: L2-Cache
             size: 1MiB
             capacity: 1MiB
             capabilities: pipeline-burst internal varies unified
     *-memory
          description: System Memory
          physical id: 23
          slot: System board or motherboard
          size: 4GiB
        *-bank:0
             description: DIMM DDR2 Synchronous 333 MHz (3.0 ns)
             product: PartNum0
             vendor: Manufacturer0
             physical id: 0
             serial: SerNum0
             slot: DIMM0
             size: 2GiB
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 333MHz (3.0ns)
        *-bank:1
             description: DIMM DDR2 Synchronous 333 MHz (3.0 ns)
             product: PartNum1
             vendor: Manufacturer1
             physical id: 1
             serial: SerNum1
             slot: DIMM1
             size: 2GiB
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 333MHz (3.0ns)
     *-pci:0
          description: Host bridge
          product: RS690 Host Bridge
          vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
          physical id: 100
          bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
          version: 00
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 66MHz
        *-pci:0
             description: PCI bridge
             product: RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express Graphics Port 0)
             vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
             physical id: 2
             bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
             version: 00
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pci pm pciexpress msi ht bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=pcieport
             resources: irq:24 ioport:8000(size=4096) memory:fd800000-fd8fffff ioport:cbf00000(size=268435456)
           *-display
                description: VGA compatible controller
                product: Mobility Radeon HD 2400
                vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                physical id: 0
                bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
                version: 00
                width: 32 bits
                clock: 33MHz
                capabilities: pm pciexpress msi bus_master cap_list rom
                configuration: driver=fglrx_pci latency=0
                resources: irq:28 memory:d0000000-d7ffffff(prefetchable) ioport:8800(size=256) memory:fd8f0000-fd8fffff memory:fd8c0000-fd8dffff(prefetchable)
           *-multimedia
                description: Audio device
                product: RV610 audio device [Radeon HD 2400 PRO]
                vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                physical id: 0.1
                bus info: pci@0000:01:00.1
                version: 00
                width: 32 bits
                clock: 33MHz
                capabilities: pm pciexpress msi bus_master cap_list
                configuration: driver=HDA Intel latency=0
                resources: irq:19 memory:fd8ec000-fd8effff
        *-pci:1
             description: PCI bridge
             product: ATI Technologies Inc
             vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
             physical id: 4
             bus info: pci@0000:00:04.0
             version: 00
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pci pm pciexpress msi ht bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=pcieport
             resources: irq:25 ioport:9000(size=8192) memory:fd900000-fe8fffff ioport:dbf00000(size=67108864)
        *-pci:2
             description: PCI bridge
             product: RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express Port 2)
             vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
             physical id: 6
             bus info: pci@0000:00:06.0
             version: 00
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pci pm pciexpress msi ht bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=pcieport
             resources: irq:26
        *-pci:3
             description: PCI bridge
             product: RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express Port 3)
             vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
             physical id: 7
             bus info: pci@0000:00:07.0
             version: 00
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pci pm pciexpress msi ht bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=pcieport
             resources: irq:27 memory:fe900000-fe9fffff
           *-network
                description: Wireless interface
                product: AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter
                vendor: Atheros Communications Inc.
                physical id: 0
                bus info: pci@0000:06:00.0
                logical name: wlan0
                version: 01
                serial: 00:15:af:2e:3c:c9
                width: 64 bits
                clock: 33MHz
                capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
                configuration: broadcast=yes driver=ath5k ip=29.237.18.117 latency=0 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bg
                resources: irq:19 memory:fe9f0000-fe9fffff
        *-storage
             description: SATA controller
             product: SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA
             vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
             physical id: 12
             bus info: pci@0000:00:12.0
             logical name: scsi2
             version: 00
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 66MHz
             capabilities: storage pm bus_master cap_list emulated
             configuration: driver=ahci latency=64
             resources: irq:22 ioport:e800(size=8) ioport:e400(size=4) ioport:e000(size=8) ioport:dc00(size=4) ioport:d800(size=16) memory:febffc00-febfffff
           *-disk
                description: ATA Disk
                product: ST9250827AS
                vendor: Seagate
                physical id: 0.0.0
                bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0
                logical name: /dev/sda
                version: 3.AA
                serial: 5RG06GKS
                size: 232GiB (250GB)
                capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
                configuration: ansiversion=5 signature=071ef670
              *-volume:0
                   description: Windows NTFS volume
                   physical id: 1
                   bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0,1
                   logical name: /dev/sda1
                   version: 3.1
                   serial: f868-22da
                   size: 98MiB
                   capacity: 100MiB
                   capabilities: primary ntfs initialized
                   configuration: clustersize=4096 created=2009-11-16 16:42:30 filesystem=ntfs label=Riservato per il sistema state=clean
              *-volume:1
                   description: Windows NTFS volume
                   physical id: 2
                   bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0,2
                   logical name: /dev/sda2
                   logical name: /media/windows
                   version: 3.1
                   serial: 50a6733e-9603-f443-9722-89763abc1f29
                   size: 48GiB
                   capacity: 48GiB
                   capabilities: primary ntfs initialized
                   configuration: clustersize=4096 created=2009-11-16 16:42:57 filesystem=ntfs modified_by_chkdsk=true mount.fstype=fuseblk mount.options=rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096 mounted_on_nt4=true resize_log_file=true state=mounted upgrade_on_mount=true
              *-volume:2
                   description: EXT4 volume
                   vendor: Linux
                   physical id: 3
                   bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0,3
                   logical name: /dev/sda3
                   logical name: /
                   version: 1.0
                   serial: e85546eb-2e88-41a1-9511-0e384d7f6c52
                   size: 23GiB
                   capacity: 23GiB
                   capabilities: primary bootable journaled extended_attributes large_files huge_files dir_nlink recover extents ext4 ext2 initialized
                   configuration: created=2010-04-30 00:28:25 filesystem=ext4 lastmountpoint=/=�;(=�6�����8������8���l/����n�����@�,7� modified=2010-06-28 20:33:02 mount.fstype=ext4 mount.options=rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,barrier=1,data=ordered mounted=2010-06-30 14:29:23 state=mounted
              *-volume:3
                   description: Extended partition
                   physical id: 4
                   bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0,4
                   logical name: /dev/sda4
                   size: 160GiB
                   capacity: 160GiB
                   capabilities: primary extended partitioned partitioned:extended
                 *-logicalvolume:0
                      description: Linux swap / Solaris partition
                      physical id: 5
                      logical name: /dev/sda5
                      capacity: 478MiB
                      capabilities: nofs
                 *-logicalvolume:1
                      description: Linux filesystem partition
                      physical id: 6
                      logical name: /dev/sda6
                      logical name: /media/sda
                      capacity: 160GiB
                      configuration: mount.fstype=ext3 mount.options=rw,relatime,errors=continue,data=ordered state=mounted
        *-usb:0
             description: USB Controller
             product: SB600 USB (OHCI0)
             vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
             physical id: 13
             bus info: pci@0000:00:13.0
             version: 00
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 66MHz
             capabilities: bus_master
             configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=64
             resources: irq:16 memory:febfe000-febfefff
        *-usb:1
             description: USB Controller
             product: SB600 USB (OHCI1)
             vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
             physical id: 13.1
             bus info: pci@0000:00:13.1
             version: 00
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 66MHz
             capabilities: bus_master
             configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=64
             resources: irq:17 memory:febfd000-febfdfff
        *-usb:2
             description: USB Controller
             product: SB600 USB (OHCI2)
             vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
             physical id: 13.2
             bus info: pci@0000:00:13.2
             version: 00
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 66MHz
             capabilities: bus_master
             configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=64
             resources: irq:18 memory:febfc000-febfcfff
        *-usb:3
             description: USB Controller
             product: SB600 USB (OHCI3)
             vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
             physical id: 13.3
             bus info: pci@0000:00:13.3
             version: 00
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 66MHz
             capabilities: bus_master
             configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=64
             resources: irq:17 memory:febfb000-febfbfff
        *-usb:4
             description: USB Controller
             product: SB600 USB (OHCI4)
             vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
             physical id: 13.4
             bus info: pci@0000:00:13.4
             version: 00
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 66MHz
             capabilities: bus_master
             configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=64
             resources: irq:18 memory:febfa000-febfafff
        *-usb:5
             description: USB Controller
             product: SB600 USB Controller (EHCI)
             vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
             physical id: 13.5
             bus info: pci@0000:00:13.5
             version: 00
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 66MHz
             capabilities: pm debug bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=64
             resources: irq:19 memory:febff800-febff8ff
        *-serial UNCLAIMED
             description: SMBus
             product: SBx00 SMBus Controller
             vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
             physical id: 14
             bus info: pci@0000:00:14.0
             version: 14
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 66MHz
             capabilities: ht cap_list
             configuration: latency=0
             resources: ioport:b00(size=16)
        *-ide
             description: IDE interface
             product: SB600 IDE
             vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
             physical id: 14.1
             bus info: pci@0000:00:14.1
             logical name: scsi0
             version: 00
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 66MHz
             capabilities: ide bus_master emulated
             configuration: driver=pata_atiixp latency=64
             resources: irq:16 ioport:1f0(size=8) ioport:3f6 ioport:170(size=8) ioport:376 ioport:ff00(size=16)
           *-cdrom
                description: DVD writer
                product: DVD RW AD-5540A
                vendor: Optiarc
                physical id: 0.0.0
                bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0
                logical name: /dev/cdrom
                logical name: /dev/cdrw
                logical name: /dev/dvd
                logical name: /dev/dvdrw
                logical name: /dev/scd0
                logical name: /dev/sr0
                version: 2.63
                serial: [Optiarc DVD RW AD-5540A 2.63 Apr27,2007
                capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r
                configuration: ansiversion=5 status=nodisc
        *-multimedia
             description: Audio device
             product: SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
             vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
             physical id: 14.2
             bus info: pci@0000:00:14.2
             version: 00
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=HDA Intel latency=64
             resources: irq:16 memory:febf4000-febf7fff
        *-isa
             description: ISA bridge
             product: SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge
             vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
             physical id: 14.3
             bus info: pci@0000:00:14.3
             version: 00
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 66MHz
             capabilities: isa bus_master
             configuration: latency=0
        *-pci:4
             description: PCI bridge
             product: SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
             vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
             physical id: 14.4
             bus info: pci@0000:00:14.4
             version: 00
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 66MHz
             capabilities: pci bus_master
             resources: ioport:b000(size=4096) memory:fea00000-feafffff
           *-firewire
                description: FireWire (IEEE 1394)
                product: R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller
                vendor: Ricoh Co Ltd
                physical id: 1
                bus info: pci@0000:07:01.0
                version: 05
                width: 32 bits
                clock: 33MHz
                capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
                configuration: driver=ohci1394 latency=64 maxlatency=4 mingnt=2
                resources: irq:21 memory:feaff800-feafffff
           *-generic:0
                description: SD Host controller
                product: R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter
                vendor: Ricoh Co Ltd
                physical id: 1.1
                bus info: pci@0000:07:01.1
                version: 22
                width: 32 bits
                clock: 33MHz
                capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
                configuration: driver=sdhci-pci latency=64
                resources: irq:22 memory:feaff400-feaff4ff
           *-generic:1
                description: System peripheral
                product: R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter
                vendor: Ricoh Co Ltd
                physical id: 1.2
                bus info: pci@0000:07:01.2
                version: 12
                width: 32 bits
                clock: 33MHz
                capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
                configuration: driver=ricoh-mmc latency=64
                resources: irq:11 memory:feaff000-feaff0ff
           *-generic:2 UNCLAIMED
                product: Illegal Vendor ID
                vendor: Illegal Vendor ID
                physical id: 1.3
                bus info: pci@0000:07:01.3
                version: ff
                width: 32 bits
                clock: 66MHz
                capabilities: bus_master vga_palette cap_list
                configuration: latency=255 maxlatency=255 mingnt=255
                resources: memory:feafec00-feafecff
           *-network
                description: Ethernet interface
                product: RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
                vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
                physical id: 7
                bus info: pci@0000:07:07.0
                logical name: eth0
                version: 10
                serial: 00:1f:c6:1a:66:06
                size: 10MB/s
                capacity: 100MB/s
                width: 32 bits
                clock: 33MHz
                capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
                configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=8139too driverversion=0.9.28 duplex=half latency=64 link=no maxlatency=64 mingnt=32 multicast=yes port=MII speed=10MB/s
                resources: irq:20 ioport:b800(size=256) memory:feafe800-feafe8ff
     *-pci:1
          description: Host bridge
          product: K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
          vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
          physical id: 101
          bus info: pci@0000:00:18.0
          version: 00
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
     *-pci:2
          description: Host bridge
          product: K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
          vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
          physical id: 102
          bus info: pci@0000:00:18.1
          version: 00
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
     *-pci:3
          description: Host bridge
          product: K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
          vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
          physical id: 103
          bus info: pci@0000:00:18.2
          version: 00
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
     *-pci:4
          description: Host bridge
          product: K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
          vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
          physical id: 104
          bus info: pci@0000:00:18.3
          version: 00
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
          configuration: driver=k8temp
          resources: irq:0

non pensavo ti cambiasse molto sapere se ho un'integrata o se ho una ati hd2400
ai fini dell'utilizzo desktop non cambia granch

**TheStalker** · 30-06-2010, 20:31

ooh ecco qua
dual core, su un notebook, bene.
Escludiamo il problema del procio lento.
Quindi ritorniamo al concetto della deframmentazione,
pulizia del registro ecc (che non hanno alcun problema, parola mia)
e programmi installati alla cazzo.

**iron_maiden89b** · 30-06-2010, 20:39

vediamo se mi ricordo i programmi:
samsung pc studio
vlc
firefox
antivirus (non ricordo quale)
e trainz simulator

non so cosa intendi per "programmi installati alla cazzo" perché non credevo ci fossero tanti modi per installarli

**TheStalker** · 30-06-2010, 20:42

intendo quelle minchiate che ti mettono appena comprati, quali utility inutili, antivirus zingari cosi come firewall di 30 giorni.
dimmi antivirus e firewall per favore xD

Windows 7 si o no?

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